How I Work this Thing: Part2

OK kids, now its time for my first lesson in our wonderful journy of gore-filled slaughter with little toy soligers.

How I Work this Thing: Part2
 
The flow of an army is vital to the working of a list, that much we all know. So today I will go over what went through my mind slapping this list together and how I got here. First thing is my prototype, when the Space Wolf Codex came out I had just finished my 30 terminator Chaos Space Marine army which looked like this.

HQ: Abbadon 275pts

Elite: 8 Terminators 2w Chain Fists, 5w Combi-Meltas, 1 with dual lightning claws, Mark of Khorn 335pts

Elite: 8 Terminators 2w Chain Fists, 4w Combi-Meltas, 1 with dual lightning claws, Mark of Khorn 330pts

Elite: 8 Terminators 2w Chain Fists, 4w Combi-Meltas, 1 with dual lightning claws, Mark of Khorn 330pts

Troop: 5 Berzerkers w Rhino 140pts

Troop: 5 Berzerkers w Rhino 140pts


Hvy: 2 Obliterators 150pts


Hvy: 2 Obliterators 150pts


Hvy: 2 Obliterators 150pts

Total 2000pts

This was competitive for me about a year and a half ago. Now this is a fun list I pull out for kicks. But as the Space Wolf codex came out I wanted to try the all terminator list with the Logan Wing and this came out.

HQ Logan Grimnar 275pts

Troop: 10 Terminators, 2 w Cyclone ML, 2 w Chain Fists 420pts

Troop: 10 Terminators, 2 w Cyclone ML, 2 w Chain Fists Arjac Rockfist 600pts

Troop: 5 Terminators, 1w Cyclone ML, 1 w Chain Fist 210pts
Land Raider 250pts

Troop: 5 Terminators, 1w Cyclone ML, 1 w Chain Fist 210pts

Total 2000pts

This gave me some fun times but it still wasn't cutting it for me. After a while I got bored and I picked up a Thunderwolf list (you'll see more of this later this week). I picked the concept up again when Stelek announced that he was making lists for Ard boyz. I looked at his recient concept for Logan Wing at the time and saw that I had the models to put it together as a nice Khorn counts as army. I contaacted him and got the first Ard Boyz list he made which was this.


I didnt end up going to Ard Boyz due to a good family friend falling down a mountain and breaking his back, yeah, it sucks. This did get me interested in how the list functioned and with out Ard Boyz I was able to study and test it to figure what made it good despite the massive amounts of missles. I first had to drop it down to 2000pts and banish the psyker to hell (stupid coward, Khorn hates you). I removed the extra HQ choices and the ten man squad to give the army some room to wiggle around in and came up with what I have now,


HQ Logan Grimnar 275pts

HQ: Wolf Guard Battle Leader w Runic Armor, Wolf Claw, Combi-Melta,   170pts
Thunderwolf mount  Saga of the Majesty

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 2 Fenrisian Wolves 105pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w Cyclone-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w Cyclone-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w Cyclone-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w Cyclone-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Total                                                                                       2000pts


Im going to go over the basics of how it works later but for now lets keep this simple,

I have 15 units, 4 scoring units, 7 shooting units, 11 units that can fight in close combat, 7 mini close combat characters (four of which move as calvery ), 5 units that can move and fire Hvy weapons (Logan makes a long fang squad relentless), 3 that can split fire, 2 that can make my army not run away with re rolls on leadership, and only one unit is over 200pts. Do you see where I am going with this. This list has so many different rolls the units can fill out. I can keep the everything moving in a nice flow and can work on a reactionary basis.

All of my units can move on the board and shoot except the two long fang squads that Logan does not get to use, allowing the army to play the reserves game if I want to. This list plays very fluidly, changing shape and strategy to best fit the moment.

It is a great shooting army with 20 missile launcher, and a wonderful close combat army with 12 units with power or chain fists. It fits anywhere I need it to be.

The other part is that it is all foot, yet still modile. My opponents dont know what to do with all their short range, one shot, death guns that fail when I am shooting you across the board with misilles. It also gives my opponents a hard time with target priority as it doesn't have one big death unit to base itself around, go ahead and kill that one 150pt unit right there, I have a bunch more waiting.

This list shows the example of how a good list is supposed to run, with a sense of purpose and unity. So lesson one is this, know why you are deploying what you are deploying when you play a game. Remember, list building is just as important as playing, painting and modeling.

How I Work this Thing: Part1

I was going to finish writing about how awesome the Warstore Weekend was but I'll have to get to it latter as I want to cover this stuff before I forget.

How my Army Works!!!

I want to write this not as some kind of tactics of lesson for anybody, if you want to learn how to be good at the game then you should go check out here. No joke this is where I went from a poor player playing with three Land Raiders full of Berzerkers to playing nice, flowing, (and tactically sane) armies. The reason I am writing this is mainly to help myself (how selfish of me ^_^). I learned when I was young that the best way to memorizing things and learning is to write them down in your own words. This is my goal. I've been playing this army since I almost went to Ard Boyz before the summer, somewhere in febuary. That means that I've been playing this army for about 7 months over about 36ish games and in over 3 tournaments, I should know how it works.This is like the final exam for me, to test wether I've been listening and learning from my mistakes and victories. This will talk about where I started and what works and doesnt. I'll even throw some pictures and hobby aspects in as well, an army is as important being painted well as it is in playing. It helps that I am slowly building and painting about twenty new Berzerkers for my armies, the last time I painted a Berzerker was two years ago. This what I'm doing, by doing it on the Blog you all (all three of you) can come along for the ride.

So here we go, you'll be seeing  these How I Work These Things articles and a few fun things thrown in coming up.

The Ones Who Just Wont Die...

Well, last weekend I just got back from the Warstore Weekend and I have to say that it was an awesome time. In the 40k tournament I had a ball. I wasn't trying to win but just enjoy what was happening, get a few games in, and meet some awesome gamers, like Dan over at Ten Inch Template. Dan won both player's choice and judge's choice for Best Painted this weekend and he is a marvelous painter and overall great guy. I also got to meet Paul from Paul's Basement League who is a wonderful person to hang out and play toy soldiers with.

Game wise I did a lot better then I thought, here's a rough summery. (sorry no pictures, the lighting was a nightmare for my camera)

First My list,

HQ Logan Grimnar 275pts

HQ: Wolf Guard Battle Leader w Runic Armor, Wolf Claw, Combi-Melta,   155pts
Thunderwolf mount 

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 2 Fenrisian Wolves 105pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Total                                                                                       1985pts 

Now before you ask why I am fifteen points off I originaly took Saga of the Hunter on the Wolf Guard Battle Leader but realized (thankfully befor the games began) that I can have the Saga with a Thunderwolf so I took a pen and took it away. Now for the games.

Game 1 Blood Angels (Predator mech spam)

The first game of the weekend was awesome as I was playing the list that I am literally building right now. I got to test my Logan Wing against my new army early, and it was a feirce test. On turn one the Blood angel zoomed forward and blasted one Lone Fang squad to death and Scared another off the board with Fear of Darkness. This left me with hoping that My thunderwolves and Lone Wolves could fight there way through and hit them with their Chain Fists and Power Fists, This is mostly what happened. The game was a multiple objective game that left me with a loss only because one of my units rolled a 3 on its run roll instead of a 4. I literally lost BY ONE INCH! That was all I needed to draw, aw well. The game was well fought I was amazed by how much firepower the Lone wolves could draw and how well they could kill stuff. Everything they touched they killed (they even caught moving Blood Angel tanks and ripped them apart). This was going to become a pattern over the weekend and many people were amazed about how destructive these 95pt models are. After this I will write about them in detail.

Game 2 Raven Guard (3 Vindicators, drop pod Dreads, and Tactical Squads with a big Bike unit)



This game I played against Paul and defiantly was my favorite game, It was good and full of surprises. This Game was modified kill points where you had to pick 5 enemy units and they were kill points. To keep the game simple he chose my Thunderwolves and a unit of Wolf Guard and a Long Fang unit that were on  the right side of the board, the same side as his three Vindicators. There were numerous awesome events in this game but the two important characters was his librarian and my Lone wolf with two wolves. The Librarian started the game by telleporting with Gate of infinity next to my killpoint longfang squad and trying to Avenge them to death but scattering to far. I responded by charging two squads of Wolf Guard and the Battle leader in and they mudered his Tactical Squad but he lived. He then proceeded to telleport out of Combat and landed next to the long fangs frying them finally with avenger leaving my 3 units in front of 3 Vindicators, lets just say it wasn't pretty. My lone wolf though charged into a captain led squad of bikes. This was an attemp to hold them for a couple turns and so it was, and more. He proceded to kill the squad by making it run and escort it of the board, killing a vindicator, an Ironclad Dread and walking to the edge of his deployment board to kill its drop pod which was a killpoint of mine. The game ended in my favor but it was a toss up the whole time we fought and had fun. Best game of the weekend by far.

Long Fangs done

When life gives you Lemons, shoot missiles at them.

Here is five of my 15 Long Fangs that I have. There all painted and ready to go.

Am working on the Thunderwolves now and all I can say is that the Juggernaught kits are AWESOME!!!

I'll also need to get the Wolf Guard Battle Leader up and running as well.

Until next post, farewell and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD... and all.

Here we go...

Grimnar Angband says "No" to spoons!

There we go, finally I got the camera to work, This here is my Grimnar Angband (counts as Logan). Isnt he pretty. Funny thing about the name as I named him Grimnar back when I didnt even know there even was a Space Wolf chapter. He was originaly named Grimaldus, I wanted something grim and dark, but then I saw the Black Templar codex and learned I stole the name from the most badass chaplain ever.So after a deep session of thought (breakfest) I decided to name him Grimnar and it was a year later that I discovered the Space Wolves (you know, when they got a new codex) but by then the name had already stuck, oh well.

As you will see over the next few weeks he has taken many forms, all of them exemplifying how great he is in combat (He is Khorn's Chosen after all). After the Horus Heresy he has despoiled and ravaged many worlds in search of a worthy foe. I have a full history of him and his army that accompanies him upon their cursed ship, The Fist of Angband. I'll post it when I get the chance... someday when I don't have to paint a bunch of guys for a tournament that's two days away "cough, Warstore, cough''.

Anyway, I needed to write my list for this weekend so here it is,

HQ Logan Grimnar 275pts

HQ: Wolf Guard Battle Leader w Runic Armor, Wolf Claw, Combi-Melta, Saga of the Hunter   165pts
Thunderwolf mount 

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 2 Fenrisian Wolves 105pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Elite: Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield, 1 Fenrisian Wolves 95pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Troop: 4 Wolf Guard, 1 Terminator w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Fast Attack: 1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Heavy Support: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

Total                                                                                       1995pts


There, 15 units and lots of close combat goodness and 20 missile shots per turn. I think that will do well. I would take the Logan Bomb but am missing an important factor (no drop pods -_-). Still I like what this list has. The iclusion of the WG-Battle Leader is new but I think it will work out, I can move him with my thunder wolves and play wound shenanigans with the Runic armor or come on the board with the outflank and ran someones side with his long charge range. Hes there to be a distraction, nothing more.

I'm finishing up my painting tonight and tomorrow and will post pictures when I am done.

Until the farewell my one and only follower, I follow your blog, I like it, the Grimnar approves.

Arjac Smash!!!

Its about time I got this ball moving so here is how I would play the Logan Bomb as inspired by this article, here.

For those who have missed it, here's the list...
 
Logan Grimnar 275pts

Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield 85pts

Lone wolf, termi armor w C-Fist,S-Shield 85pts

2 Wolf Guard w combi meltas, Arjac 269pts
Drop Pod

5 Wolf Guard, 1 termi w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

5 Wolf Guard, 1 termi w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

5 Wolf Guard, 1 termi w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

5 Wolf Guard, 1 termi w C-ML and C-Fist 150pts

1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

1 Thunder Wolf w P-Fist and S-Shield 105pts

5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115pts

4 Long Fangs, 3 Multimeltas, P-weapon 140pts
Drop Pod

Total 1999pts

What we have here is a Logan Wing, I think were all smart enough to notice that, but what makes it different from other examples of the Logan Wing is how it is run.


This list hits up in three groups that I talk you though,

The first are the two long fang squads and the Wolf Guards with the Cyclone Missile Launchers. They provide me with precious fire support, most of it on the move. With 16 missiles careening into the enemy each turn my opponents need to shut them down. I don't want that ,not at all, so I built the other two parts of this list to give my opponent a difficult choice and hopefully split his forces, which doesn't work well for them.

The second part are the Thunderwolves and Lone Wolves, we have five small super heroes running around, smashing faces and counter assaulting. They aren't invincible, far from it, so by keeping them all around the middle of the board they can play off of each other and support each other. The Thunderwolves are my favorites though, people just never realize just how far reaching and effective 5 strength 10 attacks can be, if they gang up on a vehicle they can easily penetrate it. Mainly though the provide defensive assault units that apply pressure on my opponent.

The Third and final part are the punch from the Logan Bomb that drives an offensive nail right into their side. The first pod is treated just like a land speeder if my opponent is going first and has deployed, fall down, bag a tank. If the opponent holds everything in reserves you can either join the two wolf guards to the long fags for some leadership 9 and extra wound and plop the first pod onto an objective or someplace to make it mess with the opponent or just drop onto an objective and hope to distract the opponent long enough for the Logan Bomb and the super heroes to drop. Arjac is the hero in the Logan Bing, with the retinue of long fangs he carries with him he is essentially a 6 wound Lysander, add in Logan and you have a monster of a bomb. He makes the opponent want to run, but they cant. He is the problem that the opponent must deal with and the best part is that people usually send to little support to kill him or send way to much. He Is a giant sign saying "Shoot Me... If you Can". People are more afraid of Logan than Arjac most places, in my area they have learned to fear Arjac and for good cause.

These are just a few of the ideas I have been working on. Feel free to comment my non-existent followers.

well... Here we bloody go...

well... Ive been playing Warhammer 40k for about three years and am a major fan of the World Eaters. I have a rather large collectionm of World Eaters which I am building to be able to play as Space Wolf and Blood Angel armies along with the Chaos Space Marines Codex. Expect me to be blabbing on and on about tactics for all three codexes and how my experience with each codex goes.

Now, as for the hobby awspect of this game I am about as hardcore for my space gladiators as a fat man is for Twinkies (I think that's a good thing ^_^). I started this game with Eldar and while it was interesting to learn with them, I just wasn't inspired. It was about three years ago that I saw Berzerkers and well it was Chainsaw swinging, gore splattering love at first sight. Now two years later I have everything from Rhino Rush to an all terminator "Gore Wing". I'll put up some pictures as soon as I figure out how to work this blogger thing but I do know how to paint rather well.

To start off I will just drop off the first list I am currently working on... on second thought, its late, I'm going to bed. I'll post it later. -_-zzz